Tuesday 22 May 2018

22. Makeup lost time


CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (May 2018). 
 ABM Update 10-Jun-2018


WHAT'S THE IDEA?
  • Makeup time for time lost on day 1.
  • This is an idea in line with modern Test cricket. 
  • Extra playing time is allowed in cases where overs are lost to interruptions such as rain, bad light, injury delay or other reasons.
 DISCUSSION
  • Options are extremely limited. 
  • Extra time on Day 2 is only available before or after regular playing time. 
  • Before will be restricted by junior cricket (as for a 12.30pm start). 
  • After will be limited by light especially in September or March. 
  • Also it will be hard to ensure this is applied equally and fairly for all matches.
  • If extra playing time is allowed for one game and then not for another game this may lead to disputes.
  • Reg 9.17 already says if whole of day 1 is lost then match becomes a limited over One Day match. There's even a provision under certain circumstances to doa new coin toss.

    Realistically, this will only be important when a result is desired i.e. last few rounds before finals... Extra time when the game is petering out to a dull draw would cause a few groans I think!! 

Monday 21 May 2018

21. Hours of Play in finals

CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (May 2018).
ABM Update 10-Jun-2018
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WHAT'S THE IDEA?

John Rossiter suggested a variation of the hours of finals (a later start?) to avoid dew.

DISCUSSION
10.30am or 11am start are the obvious options but this may cause light problems at 5.30pm or 6pm especially in March. Shortening the breaks (eg 20 minute lunch break) might not cause too many objections.

Against this idea is the notion that the playing hours for the finals are meant to be the same as for first class cricket.

Also Finals would be improved if a presentation of premiership trophies at the conclusion of the finals was held. Mel and Bruce commented that this has been tried before and posed considerable logistical and trophy safety problems. Many of the shields are aged and delicate and some aren't in the best condition. Nonetheless it could be an idea worth pursuing for the promotional opportunities. Replica trophies could be used?

Precise details of the hours proposal are not yet clear at this time.

To make any change the Playing Regulations 15.8 and 15.9 would need to be revised.

CURRENT REGULATIONS
 
HOURS OF PLAY15.8 The hours of play for all PLAY OFF MATCHES will be: Session 1 10am to 12 Noon, Session
2 12.40 pm to 2.40 pm, Session 3 3pm to 5pm
15.9 Play may continue for a maximum of thirty (30) minutes with a minimum of seven (7)
overs to compensate for any time lost during that day.
15.9.1 For example: 20 minutes lost due to rain at 3pm, play extends to 5.20pm
15.9.2 For example: 90 minutes lost due to bad light from 10am, play extends to
5.30pm
15.9.3 For example: 40 minutes lost at 3.30pm, slow over rate means minimum overs
completed at 5.15pm, play extends to 5.45pm


ABM 10-May-2018


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Sunday 20 May 2018

20. Replacements for INJURED players

CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (May 2018).
ABM Update 10-Jun-2018
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WHAT'S THE ISSUE?
Casual Replacements for players who suffer serious injuries after the start of play, day one.

Terminology check:
Note that Substitute Fielders are defined in Law 24 (2017 Code) and should not be confused with Replacement Players.
This error is frequently made in conversation and correspondence and can lead to mistakes.
  • Substitutes are sometimes called the 12th man. They can field but may not bat or bowl.
  • Replacement Players are sometimes called slashed players. Up to three Replacements are allowed between days in 2 day matches so long as they listed before the start of play on day one. Such replacement players may bat or bowl on the day they are named in the same manner as any other player. See Saturday Playing Regulation 7 for more.

DISCUSSION
Here's some recent communication which will illustrate the problem.

Email from a team captain...
"This is regarding our ongoing match against xxxxx. One of our players who played last week (xxx name redacted xxx) met with a motorbike accident yesterday and (was) seriously injured.
He was supposed to play both Saturdays.Is there any chance we could substitute (sic, he means REPLACE) him with someone else?
It would be great if you could help us on this."

Management Committee's reply....
"Unfortunately , our current regulations do not allow for a substitute to join the team on the Second day unless the person is listed on the team sheet as a replacement .
I am sorry about your player... who is injured but the same situation happens when someone is suddenly called in to work on the Saturday at the last minute .
The regulation that ensures we stick to the team list has been in our competition for a number of years to stop teams cheating the system in the past .
You can always provide a " substitute " as a fielder but importantly , he cannot bowl or bat as he is not on the team list ."

All of which is correct according to the rules.

But it's very hard on the team now forced to play one short.

The counter argument is that unscrupulous teams will use relaxation of the Replacement rules to swap players to suit the circumstance of their match.
Such as: On day one, team 1 bats and gets all out for 120. So team 2 then bats and reaches 6 for 80 by stumps day one. Between Saturdays, the last 3 players yet to come in for team 2 will be swapped for skilled batsmen so team 1's chance of first innings win is unfairly curtailed.

So what are the actual issues that are at stake here?

How can rorting be avoided? (e.g. fake an injury, replace an extra player... hmm.)

I imagine in most cases of injuries there will be a medical certificate or report that will elicit a suitably official case for action.


Use of such documents means that they must be produced, sighted, approved. That sort of thing can get tedious and when the procedure slackens off (as it inevitably would) the gate gets left open for rorting.

Who and how should the certificate be received? Umpire? Opposition captain? CricketOps? Management Committee? Association Secretary or President? Why should any person being burdened with that tedious admin?

What else might this be allowed for? Minor illness? (Colds and flu etc) Work commitments? (Last minute weekend rostering of some sort.) Exams? Family emergencies? Where is the line that must be drawn?


Under what circumstances would the replacement be disallowed? (Or, asked another way, how does rorting get stopped?)

Test match and first class cricket remains a replacement free zone.
Soccer used to have no in game replacements up to the late 60's. A tactic in olde time soccer was to hack the best player in the shins and get him to limp off... then you're playing against 10.


It was not so long ago that Saturday afternoon cricket used to be no replacements week to week. When I played Warehouse and Churches in the 90's that was how the game was. The introduction of slashed players (3 of 'em) actually alleviated a great deal of inconvenience.


Since that time the weekend demands on people have generally become greater. Modern work in particular is not scared of invading the once sacred weekend. Other life problems (medical, family and all the rest) remain barriers to participation that probably prevents some players from joining a team or staying with it.

If we introduce some relaxation it risks getting rorted and almost certainly creates a stack of work for someone.

If we don't then teams and players get inconvenienced and the number of people able to participate in cricket dwindles as a result.

We really need an idea here...

Over to you.

ABM 4-Mar-2018


Note: There was a implication in the old head trauma appendix that possibly allowed head injured players to be replaced. It was never used in the two years it was in force. That appendix has already been scheduled for replacement which eliminates that section.

Note: There might be a model of a way forward in regulation 7.13 Replacement of Players Resulting from Injuries in Representatives Matches. It needs examination and understanding. As far as I  am aware this rule has not been used in a very long time.






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Saturday 19 May 2018

19. 12.30pm start

CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (May 2018).
ABM Update 10-Jun-2018


WHAT'S THE IDEA?

12.30pm start for all Saturday games, all season.


DISCUSSION
Great idea for bad light problems late in the day and getting home before 7pm after the game.

Not so great for anyone transferring from junior cricket in the morning (groundskeepers, parents, junior players.)

For many years QSDCA has started at 12.30pm for the first 5 or 6 weeks of the season. That's approximately from Round 1 to 5. The changeover to 1pm start is at the end of October.

Some of these dates clash with junior cricket on a regular basis. How do junior cricket issues affect players in September and October?

In season 2016/17 we had a 12.30pm start for a one day game which coincided with the first day/night test match at the Gabba in December.

There is no corresponding early start in March.

Typically there is only 1 or 2 regular Saturdays matches in March.

Most QSDCA cricket played in March is finals played 10am to 5pm.


A PROPOSAL

EXISTING REGULATION(S)
14-Aug-2017
PROPOSED CHANGE
HOURS OF PLAY
9.2  Matches played up to and including 31st October will commence at 12.30 pm and finish at 5.30 pm subject to conditions in regulations 10 and 11.
HOURS OF PLAY
9.2  Matches played up to and including 31st October will commence at 12.30 pm and finish at 5.30 pm subject to conditions in regulations 10 and 11.
9.3  Matches will commence at 1.00 pm and finish at 6.00 pm throughout the remainder of the season subject to conditions in regulations 10 and 11. 9.3 Nil


TEA INTERVAL
10.18 For matches starting at 12.30pm a tea interval of fifteen (15) minutes will be taken at 2.55pm
TEA INTERVAL
10.18  For matches starting at 12.30pm a A tea interval of fifteen (15) minutes will be taken at 2.55pm
10.19 For matches starting at 1pm a tea interval of fifteen (15) minutes will be taken at 3.25pm 10.19 Nil


COMPULSORY CLOSURE
11.4.2 For matches scheduled to start at 12.30pm, the first innings will close at the end of the
over in progress at 2.55pm.
COMPULSORY CLOSURE
11.4.2 For matches scheduled to start at 12.30pm, t The first innings will close at the end of the
over in progress at 2.55pm.
11.4.3 For matches scheduled to start at 1pm, the first innings will close at the end of the over in progress at 3.25pm. 11.4.3 Nil

ABM 4-Mar-2018




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Friday 18 May 2018

18. Something better than cut-off time for One Dayers

CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (May 2018).
ABM Update 10-Jun-2018
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Indooroopilly DCC suggested something to address this problem last year which foundered perhaps due to incomplete understanding of the problem or the lack of an ideal solution.

So let's have another go.

In Saturday 35 over matches and Sunday 50 over matches (limited overs one dayers), the motivation to complete overs before the cut-off time is not big enough.

If a side bowling first gets behind in over rates, the only problem this causes is that they may get less than the full quota of overs when they bat. If the side bowling first is being 'carted' (i.e. lots of runs being scored very quickly) then slowing things down and bowling less overs might be a tactic which advantages the side bowling first.

So the solution must be to introduce a genuine motivation (i.e. a penalty) for slow over rate in first innings. To be fair to both sides in any match such a motivation/penalty should be applied for the second innings too.

Here are some ways that this could be improved:
  1. Run penalty - Add five runs for every uncompleted over to the score of the team batting first (BUT in a game where the scoring rate is 7 an over this is not an incentive...) (The current Super 20 regulations has a rule like this except it's 6 runs an over...)
  2. Time Penalty - Allow the first batting team's innings to continue until complete and then deduct those overs from second batting team's innings. (BUT this seems too harsh and was rejected at 2017 AGM.)
  3. Fines and Susupension Penalty - In ODI's the captain gets fined and suspended (a multistage penalty for repeat offences) (BUT this is unlikely to be accepted at Subbies cricket level.)
  4. Restructure the matches - Assign fewer overs or more time. 
  • Currently the 35 match allows 145 minutes to bowl 35 overs and have 1 drinks break (about 4.14 minutes per over). So change to 30 overs per side from 1pm with a 3.25pm cutoff. (BUT this is less cricket for everyone.)
  • Currently the 50 over match rules allow 195 minutes to bowl 50 overs and take 2 drinks breaks (average 3.9 minutes per over)So change Sunday matches to 200 minutes for 50 overs - start 10am, close and lunch at 1.20pm, restart 1.40pm, finish 5pm.
Whatever method is chosen must be easy to implement for player umpired games. (without reliable watches, say)
How do we cope with the time lost for injury/ lost balls/ bad light/ rain?

Any ideas out there?

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ABM 2-Mar-2018 

Thursday 17 May 2018

17. Duckworth Lewis Stern Method

CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (May 2018).
ABM Update 10-Jun-2018
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WHAT'S THE ISSUE?

Currently we use average run rate to decide results in limited over matches curtailed by rain.

Modern (Duckworth Lewis Stern) DLS apps for mobile computers are available which offer a practical way to decide such results in an attractive way.

DISCUSSION

Historically there aren't very many results decided in this way in QSDCA, so the need is low. (Are there any figures on this?)

This has been resisted in the past due to perceived complexity of DLS methods.

If the computers and a suitable, agreed and accepted, reliable app is available then there seems very little in the way of doing this.

So what about the computers?
What about the apps?
What about the reliability and use of them?

Should we roll computer scoring into this also?

There is some "technofear" about app based scoring and any 'magic' software that 'eats' cricket scores and produces curious results. That is not as big a problem as the chance of easily making mistakes, I reckon.



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This is from the South East Qld Cricket Webb Shield and Plunkett Cup Playing Conditions 2017/18.

S.E.Q.C. DLS Playing Condition 2017-18

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"16.3 Delayed or Interrupted Matches - Calculation of the Target Score utilising “Duckworth-Lewis Method”

If, due to suspension of play (including abandonment of a match) after the start of the match, the number of overs in the innings of the team batting second has to be revised to a lesser number than originally allotted (minimum 15 overs in preliminary matches and 20 overs in the final), then a revised target score (to win) should be set for the number of overs which the team batting second will have the opportunity of facing.

This revised target is to be calculated using the “Standard Edition” of the Duckworth-Lewis method. This will not give exactly the same answer as the 'Professional Edition' that is used in professional matches. (Use of the Professional Edition requires proprietary software which is not yet available to the general public.) However, this application will provide a good indicator of the state of play in a match, and the Standard Edition is valid in non-professional matches (or where the professional software is not available). In the rare event of a software device being unavailable or software failure is encountered, manual calculation using a calculator and a hard copy of the method can be utilised.

Due to the size of the “full” explanation and the “tables” contained in the Standard Duckworth-Lewis Method, a copy is NOT included in these set of rules.

There are many internet resources available to scorers & officials for the download to their PC, laptop, android tablet or iphone. of the Standard Duckworth-Lewis Method calculator, hardcopy including ‘over-by-over’ & ‘ball-by-ball’ tables.

(i) The following website is a suggestion for the free download of an up-to-date accurate “Standard” Duckworth-Lewis Method Calculator.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.rfear.android.dlcalc&hl=en

 (ii) The following website is a suggestion for a hard copy download of an up-to-date accurate “Standard” Duckworth-Lewis Method explanation & a copy of the tables.

http://www.icc-cricket.com/rules_and_regulations.php

Be aware of bogus & insecure websites."

COMMENTS BY ABM 
The DLS method is not well described. It seems somewhat "do what you like". If the two team scorers each try a method they have 'discovered' and get different answers then how is the correct result determined.

This could become a nightmare...
But we might get somewhere by testing some of these rules against some match case histories.

Sunday 6 May 2018

06. Adjust points for first and second innings wins

CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (June 2018).
ABM 25-June-2018

 WHAT'S THE IDEA?

Even out points received for first innings and outright wins

  • i.e. instead of 4 points for a first innings win and 6 for a outright how about 5 and 5?

DISCUSSION

Right now teams get 4 points for a first innings win and 6 points for an outright.

Presumably this is staggered so that there is some reward for pushing for a second innings result when time gets short on the last day.

Late in the season teams often complain about their limited opportunity to gain points for all sorts of reasons.

One I heard recently was that if a team is drawn against good sides in the last few rounds they may score 2 or 3 first innings wins and get 8 or 12 points (ignoring bonus points for the time being).

But rival teams drawn against weaker sides may get 2 or 3 outright wins and score 20 or 30 points.

Under the proposed change the points scored would be 10 or 15 for 2 or 3 first innings wins as opposed to 20 or 30 points for 2 or 3 outright wins.

There are some wider implications of this change.

This change would also affect all first innings wins. In all grades the first innings result is by far the most common. These would all score 5 points plus bonus points.

First innings wins that convert to outrights are about 10% of results. Teams would continue to score 10 points plus bonus points for this result.

Overturn second innings wins (team loses first innings and goes on to win second innings) are quite rare (less than 1% of results). In such cases each team would get equal points  (5 each plus bonuses) That seems slightly weird to me because the game is not a draw.

A PROPOSAL

 POINTS FOR TWO DAY MATCHES10.29 Teams in all grades will be allocated the following points for two day matches.
10.29.1 Outright win after leading on the first innings......... 10 points
10.29.2 Outright win after tie on the first innings................ 8 points
10.29.3 Outright win after trailing on the first innings.......... 5 points
10.29.4 Tie after winning on the first innings...................... 7 points
10.29.5 Tie after trailing on the first innings........................ 3 points
10.29.6 Win on the first innings......................................... 5 points
10.29.7 Outright loss after leading on the first innings......... 5 points
10.29.8 Draw or tie on the first innings............................... 2 points
10.29.9 Outright loss after tie on first innings...................... 2 points
10.29.10 Loss on first innings............................................. 0 points
10.29.11 Outright loss after trailing on the first innings......... 0 points
10.29.12 Match abandoned before any result....................... 2 points

ABM 4-Mar-2018



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Saturday 5 May 2018

05. Simplify the Limited Over Calculation Sheets

CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (June 2018).
ABM 25-June-2018


WHAT'S THE ISSUE?

The QSDCA calculation sheets (Saturday Reg 11 and Sunday Reg 15) are dauntingly complicated. A simpler one would be easier.

Calculation sheets for Super 20 might also be adopted. (Right now there aren't any.)

DISCUSSION
The rules in the SEQC Plunkett Cup matches are briefer.

Examine these to see if they could be modified to our matches.



13.2 Delayed or Interrupted Matches

13.2.1 General

(a) The object shall always be to rearrange the number of overs so that both teams have the opportunity of batting for the same number of overs. A team shall not be permitted to declare its innings closed. A minimum 15 overs (20 overs in Final) have to be bowled to the team batting second to constitute a match. The calculation of the number of overs to be bowled shall be based on an average rate of 14.28 overs per hour in the total time available for play. If a reduction of the number of overs is required, any recalculation must not cause the match to be rescheduled to finish earlier than the original cessation time. This time may be extended to allow for one extra over for both teams to be added if required.

(b) If the team fielding second fails to bowl the required number of overs by the scheduled cessation time, the hours of play shall be extended until the overs have been bowled or a result achieved.

(c) The team batting second shall not bat for a greater number of overs than the first team unless the latter has been all out in less than the agreed number of overs.

(d) Any uncompleted over included in the overs already bowled shall be regarded as a complete over.

(e) Fractions are to be ignored in all calculations regarding the number of overs to be bowled.

13.2.2 Delay or Interruption to the Innings of the Team Batting First

(a) If the number of overs of the team batting first is reduced, a fixed time will be specified for the completion of the first session, as calculated by applying the provisions of clauses 11.6 and 13.2.2 (a).

(b) If the team fielding first fails to bowl the required number of overs by the scheduled time for cessation of the first session, play shall continue until the required number of overs has been bowled.

See Appendix 7

13.2.3 Delay or Interruption to the Innings of the Team Batting Second

If there is a suspension in play during the second innings, the overs shall be reduced at a rate of 14.28 overs per hour for time lost. However, should the innings of the team batting first have been completed at least 40 minutes prior to the scheduled or rescheduled time for commencement of the interval then any calculation relating to the revision of overs shall not be effective until an amount of time equivalent to that by which the second innings started early has elapsed.

See Appendix 8

Appendix 7 SEQC Calculation Sheet for 1st Innings Interruption

Appendix 8 SEQC Calculation Sheet for 2nd Innings Interruption

Friday 4 May 2018

04. Law 24 and 25 Penalty Time

CURRENT STATUS
NOTICE OF MOTION ready.                                                 
ABM 1-Jul-2018



WHAT ARE THE ISSUES?

The new Laws of Cricket (2017 Code) have some changes in the sections about players leaving the field.

Laws of Cricket 24.2, 24.3 and 25.3 are the relevant laws.

Briefly there is a new concept known as "Penalty Time" which prevents fielders who are off the field during play from both bowling or batting immediately when they return.

To deal with this early last season QSDCA issued a statement to patch up our playing regulations to be square with this.Here's a link to the QSDCA Penalty Time laws Statement https://tinyurl.com/y9lyuejh

The statement made hastily at the start of the last season is complicated and difficult to comprehend. It also has some errors.

Also many people seem unclear on the actual regulations. (Sat 9.21 and Sunday 24)

DISCUSSION

QSDCA cricket consists of non-professional competitions meant for people with real lives. It is too restrictive on players to insist on this type of law since our players are subject to traffic, family responsibility, work, illness and other 'symptoms' of life. We do not want players, teams or matches curtailed by this rule.


The time has come to update Sat Reg 9.21 and Sunday Reg 24 formally. There is no equivalent law in Super 20 Regs. Conceivably it should be added to Super 20 Regulations.



This is the statement made by the Management Committee on 12-Sept-2017.

"For season 2017/18 Qld Sub Districts Cricket will not be adopting:
  Law 24.2 Fielder absent or leaving the field of play and
  Law 24.3 Penalty Time Not incurred. and
  Law 25.3 Restriction on batsman commencing an innings

Playing Regulation 9.21 will apply to players late for the start of play.

This playing condition will apply in a similar manner to any fielder who leaves the field during play.

When a fielder leaves the field during the course of the match, his captain will inform the umpire or opposition captain and by doing so his rights to continue play when he returns are not restrained.

Players who leave the field will not be restricted from batting in any following innings.

This statement applies to all cricket competitions managed by QSDCA in 2017/18 season.

Note: Other parts of Law 24 (2017) (namely 24.1 Substitute fielders (can now wicketkeep with umpire's consent) and 24.4 Players returning without permission (subject to 5 run penalty) will still apply.

Note: Batsman retiring is now governed by Law 25.4 (2017 Code). It is effectively unchanged from the 2015 Code.

Note: These changes and the non-adoption of new Law 42 mean that QSDCA Playing Condition 9.21.5 does not apply."

This new version covers "absence" which describes both the situation that applies to players arriving late for the start of play and those who leave part way through the day's play (due to injury or other unavoidable cause). Also it specifies the New Laws which are not applying.

PROPOSAL

Saturday Regulations
(Sunday Reg 24 will be the same except for the numbering. 
A similar regulation can be included in Super 20.)
EXISTING REGULATIONSPROPOSED REGULATIONS
PLAYERS LATE FOR START OF PLAY
Preamble: Since this is a competition is for amateur players the association will not strictly enforce the late player rules.
PLAYER ABSENCES

Preamble: Because QSDCA provides a competition for amateur players, the association will not strictly enforce the Penalty Time Laws. Players, captains and umpires are encouraged to communicate openly so as to not restrain any absent player's right to play.

9.21 Law 24.2.2 (2017 Code) will be replaced by the following clauses:
9.21.1 Law 24.2 Fielder absent or leaving the field of play, Law 24.3 Penalty time not incurred and Law 25.3 Restriction on batsman commencing an innings (2017 Code)will not apply and will be replaced by the following:

9.21.2 An absent player means any player listed on the Team List for the current day's play who is not present or unable to take part in the match during playing hours.

9.21.3 Fielding team player absences fall into two categories: players late for the start of play and players who leave the field during play.

9.21.4 Batting team player absences also fall into similar categories but late batters can be replaced by other players in the batting lineup and batters who leave during play will remain subject to Batsman retiring Law 25.4 (2017 Code).


NOTIFICATION PROCEDURE
9.21.1 If the captain of a batting or a fielding side is aware that a player is going to arrive late for a reason declared as unavoidable (such as heavy traffic, car breakdown, illness in the family, work commitments, etc), the captain will advise the umpire of the players name and the reason for arriving late prior to the start of play.
9.21.5 The absent player's captain will advise the umpire of the player's name and the reason for absence prior to the start of play or as soon as practical.
9.21.2 If no umpire is present, then the captain will advise the opposing captain prior to the start of play.
9.21.6 If no umpire is present, the absent player's captain will advise the opposing captain.

9.21.7 Acceptable reasons for player absences include illness, injury or any other unavoidable cause such as heavy traffic, car breakdown, family illness, work commitments.
9.21.3 Subject to the above procedure being followed, the player will not be prevented from bowling immediately on arrival or batting at the fall of the next wicket.
9.21.8 Subject to the above procedure being followed, the absent fielding team player will not be prevented from bowling immediately on return to the field (subject to any other relevant laws of cricket).

9.21.9 Fielders who leave the field will not be restricted from batting in any following innings.
9.21.4 If the above procedure is not followed (such as the reason for late arrival of the player does not fall into an "unavoidable issues" category as shown in 9.21.1) then:
9.21.10 If the above procedure is not followed ….. then:
9.21.4.1 The late player may not be permitted to bowl until that player has been on the field for at least the length of playing time for which they were absent.
9.21.11 The absent fielding team player will not be permitted to bowl until that player has been on the field for at least the length of playing time for which they were absent.
9.21.4.2 The late player can bat at the fall of the next wicket.
9.21.12 The absent batting team player can bat at the fall of the next wicket.
9.21.4.3 For example, match commences at 1.00pm, player arrives late at 1.30pm with no advice from captain prior to start of play.
9.21.13 For example, match commences at 1.00pm, absent fielding team player arrives late at 1.30pm with no advice from captain prior to start of play.
9.21.4.4 The late player cannot bowl until 2.00pm because of the 30 minutes that they were late.
9.21.14 The absent fielding team player cannot bowl until 2.00pm because of the 30 minutes that they were late.
9.21.5 Note the restrictions of penalty time elsewhere in Law 24 and Law 42 still apply.
9.21.15 Other parts of Law 24 (2017 Code) (namely 24.1 Substitute fielders and 24.4 Player returning without permission) will still apply.
























Thursday 3 May 2018

03. Align Numbering in Super 20, Sunday 50, Saturday Regulations.

CURRENT STATUS
Management Committee decided to defer this proposal to allow development of a complete Super 20 Regulations Review.
ABM 25-Jun-2018



WHAT'S THE IDEA?
  • This would be a first step towards integrating the 3 sets of regulations into one book.
  • Many individual regulations have a similar function in each existing set of regulations. But some have different versions of wording. Eg. Reg 1 in Super 20 v Reg 1 in Sat Reg.
  • The aim of this step is to give similar rules in each set of Regulations has the same, familiar number. e.g. Fitness of Grounds is currently Reg 17 on Saturdays, Reg 24 in Super 20 and Reg 29 in Sunday 50 even though it's EXACTLY the same in all competitions.
DISCUSSION

To be honest this is not really just a tidying up exercise.

 Any rule which is common across each competition e.g most of the player protection regulations (for instance helmets, drinks breaks, junior bowlers) should not be repeated in every version of playing regulations.

Several others (e.g. Player registration) do have subtle differences which might actually benefit from alignment. First we can see what's different and then change things if needed. (An example would be good here.)

I made a start on this and found that it is MUCH more complex than it first appears.








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Wednesday 2 May 2018

02. Team Shirts

CURRENT STATUS
QSDCA Management Committee declined to support this (June 2018).
ABM 25-June-2018


DISCUSSION
Something may need a tweak with the Team shirt regs... maybe to specify some steps to get them approved (e.g. make it clear that clubs must submit a prior photo/application to the Man-Com) and maybe deduct points when players don't wear 'em... or when players wear unapproved shirts.

There seems to be some casualness about following shirt regulations.

One complaint this season was about red shirts in a Sunday match which were approved in a way that I don't fully understand. Without giving away the identities of the teams involved the complaint was about bright red shirts against a red ball with no sightscreens and dull daylight making the game hard to play for batsmen. But the shirts were approved.... by whom, when and how.. questions I cannot answer and I type the association minutes and file all the written correspondence.

  • Some teams seem to be a little slack about submitting their team shirts for Management Committee approval.

  • Some don't make sure all players on the field wear the shirt as a uniform. (There's often an excuse about 'he's just filling in this week".)
  •  Some allow the odd one or two players to wear an odd shirt with big numbers or logos or a team shirt from some other team they have played with in the past.

Is the problem that teams aren't caring enough?  Do they need some motivation to follow clothing and team shirt rules?

So perhaps we should provide some?

Will it be carrot or stick?
 🥕 Umpires to approve 1 team bonus point for teams with perfect clothing at matches? (This is a bit arbitrary and open to corruption.)

🏑 Or 0.1 point penalty for each player in the wrong shirt? (Might cause some bad feeling.)

Then what about Fourex hats, black socks, grubby trousers, fluoro coloured shoes?

What if we give up and let people play in thongs, board shorts  and bluey singlets? (That's worse than the grubby trousers and Fourex hats...)

What exactly do we want for our cricket matches?
Do we want to project some kind of traditional, pickled in aspic image of old fashioned whites and creams?
Do we want to attract young people with smart looking, colourful uniforms like on TV?
Do we want people to think we're a bunch of untidy slobs who don't seem to care very much?
Do we want to exclude players who would otherwise not be able to play due to clothing costs?
Do we want to attract derision for maniacally clinging to irrelevant, outdated clothing standards which everyone else has disregarded long ago?


So here's some ideas:
  • Make it clear that teams must wear all white shirts and trousers with white socks and mostly white shoes.
  • Introduce an umpires report for clothing standards (perhaps another question on the Umpires Spirit of Cricket report form)
  • Introduce some kind of fine/penalty/loss of points system for breaches.
  • Take action against some teams to emphasise the seriousness of this.
  • Team shirts are allowed is preapproved. ManCom requires submission of a photo/diagram prior. This will be filed (somewhere) and displayed on a team website (for reference and display) Approval will require renewal each season.
  • Teams who play in a Team shirt without valid Mancom approval will be reported and penalised. (How to do this at non-offical umpired matches?) (Sigh)
  • Define some standard Team shirts (or just list some features) which meet ManCom approval? Pictures for instance.
 ABM 3-Mar-2018



Tuesday 1 May 2018

01. Forfeits

CURRENT STATUS
NOTICE OF MOTION ready
ABM 1-Jul-2018



FORFEIT ISSUES
  1. Collect all the rules about forfeits into a single regulation, so it's easier to follow.
  2. Teams conceding forfeits are subject to a financial penalty determined at the Annual General Meeting. (Currently a flat $200 for any kind of game regardless of type.)
  3. Review the other costs. (Forfeiting team pays wicket fees and umpires fees.)
  4. Make explicit the process for the granting of forfeits. (No forfeit is guaranteed. Management Committee retains the right to make a final decision.)
  5. What conditions lead to a forfeit? (e.g. If minimum 7 players are not present at the time for start of play... do we wait 5 minutes? or 30? What if both teams are short of 7 players? Who gets the forfeit?)
  6. Points distribution for a forfeit. (Is it maximum points scored by any other team in that round? Is there any circumstance where that is not so? So let's say so.)
DISCUSSION
1. Collect all the Rules

Saturday Regulations 

The regulations that have relevance or mention forfeits are:
  • MINIMUM NUMBER OF PLAYERS 9.18, 9.19
  • POINTS FOR FORFEITED MATCHES 9.22
  • POINTS FOR FORFEITS AGAINST WITHDRAWN TEAMS 9.23
  • PROVISIONS FOR TEAM WITHDRAWALS 9.24
  • ENTERING MATCH RESULTS AFTER THE END OF THE MATCH 14.6, 14.7
These have been gathered and rewritten so they're easy to find and follow.
Sat Regs 9.25 and 24.5 deal with the application of disciplinary penalties to clubs in breach of regulations. They are not considered relevant to this discussion.

Sunday 50 Over Regs and Super 20 Regs 
Some version of these regs are present in Sunday 50 and Super 20 regs, some have subtle variations.
  • A renumbered version of the proposal will replace Sunday Regs 10 and 26 and Super 20 Regs 7 and 20.2. (The numbering in Super 20 Regs will be subject to change.)

2. & 3. Forfeit costs are discussed and decided at the Annual General meeting. No Playing Regulation changes are needed.

4. Explicit Process and Forfeit Conditions
Forfeits seem to cause confusion especially when it comes to the rules.



'Forfeit Conditions' states the principle condition for a forfeit but an explanatory preamble and a section called 'Forfeit Caution' are meant to spell out the procedure.


Forfeits come in two main shapes and sizes.

Often a team will call a game off several days in advance because they know their team members will be otherwise engaged (footy, weddings, interstate trips. end of season lack of interest or some other reason they come up with).

This is characterised by the call off occurring up to a week before the game begins.

More occasionally there will be a team which struggles to get numbers together on a day due to traffic congestion, car breakdowns, mis-organisation, fill in players who get lost or go to the wrong ground.

This is characterised by the team failing to have a minimum number of players (7) ready at time for start of play (say 1pm).

Up to now Unofficially, umpires are encouraged to delay the start in such circumstances in the hope that the team short of players might have some players arrive late so that the match can begin.

This often leads to opposition confusion about 'cut off' time (there isn't one) and then 'claiming a forfeit' (it's subject to ManCom approval which can take weeks). I guess there's some minor inconvenience involved also.

It is important that teams making a claim for a forfeit make no statement or action that might be taken to mean they refuse to play because they have 'won by forfeit'.


6. Points for a Forfeit
This is unchanged.

It was suggested that there may be a case for reducing the opportunity of the non-forfeiting team to score maximum points. A delayed start can reduce the time for play and the opportunity to score bonus points. At season's end there is often some anxiety about this due to finals especially when some sides get to play 'weak' teams who may offer more forfeits.

However...
  • If the delay were due to weather you'd probably conclude that it was bad luck.
  • If the non-forfeiting team is playing 11 against 8 (which may include fill-in players) then their chance of scoring runs quickly is increased by the gaps in the field. 
  • Also the non-forfeiting team will get full bowling bonus points if they can take just 8 wickets rather than the usual 10. An outright win can be achieved by taking just 16 wickets rather than the usual 20.


 PROPOSAL

Saturday Regulations


EXISTING REGULATIONS PROPOSED NEW REGULATION
9.18 Each team must have a minimum number of seven (7) registered playing members present at start of play on the first day.
9.18 Nil
9.19 If the number of players is reduced below seven for any reason after the start of play on the first day, the match will continue. 9.19 Nil

FORFEITS

Preamble: Sometimes a match cannot start on time due to incomplete teams.
In such circumstances Umpires and Captains are encouraged to delay the start of play in the hope that any team short of players might have some players arrive late so that the match can continue.
It is important that teams making a claim for a forfeit make no statement or action that might be taken to mean they refuse to play because they have 'won by forfeit'.
MINIMUM NUMBER OF PLAYERS
FORFEIT CONDITIONS
9.18 Each team must have a minimum number of seven (7) registered playing members present at start of play on the first day.
9.22.1 Each team must have a minimum number of seven (7) registered playing members present at start of play on the first day.
9.19 If the number of players is reduced below seven for any reason after the start of play on the first day, the match will continue.
9.22.2 If the number of players is reduced below seven for any reason after the start of play on the first day, the match will continue.

FORFEIT CAUTION
9.22.3 Players, captains and umpires are expected to make efforts to allow the match to proceed if at all possible.

9.22.4 There is no cut-off time for 'claiming' a forfeit.
9.22.1 The Management Committee will retain the right to decide upon such forfeits.
9.22.5 All claims for forfeit will be examined by the Management Committee and will be subject to confirmation.
POINTS FOR FORFEITED MATCHES
POINTS FOR FORFEITED MATCHES
9.22 Teams receiving forfeits may be allocated the maximum number of points scored by any other team in that grade for the match.
9.22.6 Teams receiving forfeits may be allocated the maximum number of points scored by any other team in that grade for the match.
9.22.1 The Management Committee will retain the right to decide upon such forfeits.

9.22.2 Maximum points means match points plus bonus incentive points.
9.22.7 Maximum points means match points plus bonus incentive points.
POINTS FOR FORFEITS AGAINST WITHDRAWN TEAMS
POINTS FOR FORFEITS AGAINST WITHDRAWN TEAMS
PROVISIONS FOR TEAM WITHDRAWALS
9.23 In the event of a team withdrawing from the competition after the commencement of the first match of the season, each opposing team will be allocated a number of points as determined from time to time by the Management Committee, or at the end of each match, in the particular grade.
9.23 In the event of a team withdrawing from the competition after the commencement of the first match of the season, each opposing team will be allocated a number of points as determined from time to time by the Management Committee, or at the end of each match, in the particular grade.
PROVISIONS FOR TEAM WITHDRAWALS

9.24 If a team withdraws from the competition after the commencement of the first match of the season, the team withdrawing will be deemed to be lowest graded team from that club.
9.24 If a team withdraws from the competition after the commencement of the first match of the season, the team withdrawing will be deemed to be lowest graded team from that club.
9.24.1 For example if there are two teams in different grades from the same club and the higher graded team withdraws, then the lower grade team will be promoted.
9.24.1 For example if there are two teams in different grades from the same club and the higher graded team withdraws, then the lower grade team will be promoted.


ENTERING MATCH RESULTS AFTER THE END OF THE MATCH
(no change)
14.6 Entry of match results is required for any match abandoned due to weather or forfeit.
(no change)
14.7 Players listed for abandoned or forfeited matches count toward qualification for play-offs and finals matches.
(no change)

Sunday 50 Over Regs and Super 20 Regs
Some of these regs are present in Sunday 50 and Super 20 regs, some have subtle variations.
A renumbered version of this will replace Sunday Regs 10 and 26 and Super 20 Regs 7 and 20.2. (The numbering in Super 20 Regs will be subject to change.)


ABM 1-Jul-2018





CORRESPONDENCE

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: (A QSDCA umpire)
Date: 12 February 2018 at 12:03
Subject: (A match in season 2017/18)

To: Mel Lowings <mel.lowings@gmail.com>
Cc: Ab M <maurice19cricket@gmail.com>, Kevin Haley <kevinjhaley@bigpond.com>


Thanks Anthony and Mel.  Fully understand QSDCA position and as umpire we will do our best to explain the situation to the teams involved.

Yet comes around Finals time and teams fighting for points, it will be inevitable that some teams will get a bit edgy.

Regs xxxxx


On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:34 PM, Mel Lowings <mel.lowings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi xxxxxx

The first problem is that some players from South Brisbane Juniors play " Junior Cricket " that may finish at 12noon - they then find it difficult to arrive at their appointed ground for their match , prior to 1.00pm .

This has occurred in a previous match with them when they played at Bracken Ridge which was a fair distance to travel . Ultimately , as the official  umpire for the match , you should do your best to find out the reason for the other players not having arrived in time .

It's possible there could have been a traffic accident or a vehicle broken down . The suggestion is that you communicate the reason ( or possible reason ) for the delay in players arriving , with the opposition captain , and definitely away from his players  .

You are correct in that our regulations do not advise you of a cut-off time of when a possible forfeit arises . The start of play is 1.00pm and anytime from then ( should a team not have the minimum of 7 players on the first day of a match ) a captain has the right to claim a forfeit .

As stated by Anthony (ABM) , the Management Committee of QSDCA prefers that this does not happen and so it falls on the official umpire to try to follow the steps mentioned in the first 3 lines of this email and hopefully thereby avoid a forfeit .

Regards


Mel Lowings
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On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Ab M <maurice19cricket@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi xxxx,

It's better that the game got underway (even if it was a bit late). Forfeits attract financial penalty for the team which concedes them (all wicket fees, umpire fees and a fine).

You're right.There is no definition of cut off time for a forfeit in playing regulations.

In Subbies cricket, it is normal practice that forfeits are not 'claimed' or automatic. Forfeits are subject to confirmation by the Management Committee, usually by a motion at a monthly meeting.

In the case you have discussed I think if you substituted rain for team absence as the reason for the shortened game that there would be little argument... (i.e. bad luck, you missed out because of rain...)

The playing regulations about forfeits are likely to be considered for review ahead of the next association Annual General Meeting in July. (I think that grouping the separate regulations into a single number is an obvious start.) I am keen to hear any suggestions you have or may have heard about that may improve these rules.

See you at the ump's meeting.

Regs,
ABM Sun 5.36p




On 11 February 2018 at 09:08, (A QSDCA umpire) wrote:
Dear Mel, Kevin and all,

I have finished Day 1 of the captioned match.  Not sure if QSDCA will send another umpire for Day 2, but team lists are attached and status of match as per below:

- South Brisbane won the toss and elected to bat
- South Brisbane 10/86 in 40 overs
- Logan City 4/111 dec in 30 overs

So Day 2, South Brisbane will be starting its 2nd inning.

There was an incident, however.  South Brisbane have only 3 players at 1pm, and 7 players at 1:25pm when the game starts.  The 6 overs lost we tried to make up with shorten drinks and tea breaks, and extend the game until light is not possible (to the agreement of both captains).

But a question was raised that, if a team does not have 7 players to start, is there a cut-off time that the team will need to forfeit the match?  For example, if the team can't have 7 players by 2pm, game will be called off and award the match to the opposition?

I don't think I found anything on this in the playing regulations, but if there is please let me know.

The implication is, if forfeit does take place, while the winning team gets maximum points scored by any other team in that grade for the match, it might not be enough for them, say to get into the finals.  If forfeit does NOT take place, and say the game can only start at 2pm, that's 15 overs lost and the shorten game will limit for opportunity for a team to have enough time to chase for outright win and bonus incentive points, again say for getting into the finals.  Either way the team that wants to score more points will be disadvantaged by the lateness of another team.

Appreciate your thoughts on the above.

Regs xxxx